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MsMJ
04-28-2010, 01:22 PM
I would also like to add over priced dispensaries to our public shit list. Lets boycott every dispensary that sells 1/8th's for over $65 as they are profiting from our medical problems. Dispensaries are supposed to operate as non profit in California but so many dispensary owners are making financial gains. To save money use a delivery service, buy directly from a farmer, or grow your own.
Dispensaries purchase marijuana for about $10 a gram. Dispensaries SELL marijuana to their customers. We do not make "donations." We make a purchase. When the "donation" is set it is called a price. For example an 1/8th of Bubba Kush for $65.

Mare Ahh Won Ahh
04-28-2010, 02:24 PM
Great post! Its a shame all people care about is Money Money Money.

Sago
06-01-2010, 08:04 AM
dutchgreenclub.com overpriced especially with the shipping.

DPHil.Socrates
06-02-2010, 04:26 AM
You can't have capitalism AND not-for-profit enterprises in the same country. Move to Russia if you're so angry.

TasK211
06-02-2010, 05:45 AM
You can't have capitalism AND not-for-profit enterprises in the same country. Move to Russia if you're so angry.

For me its not so much that "im angry", not sure if MsMJ shes angry or distraught over the "wording" (non-profit/donations), but the wording does bug me a lil .... and it all boils doen to "MONEY MONEY MONEY" <--- i dont have any so dont have much to say on the subject or really care for money ..just give me my MEDs, that i do PAY FOR ....lol

Drums
06-03-2010, 08:12 AM
You can't have capitalism AND not-for-profit enterprises in the same country. Move to Russia if you're so angry.>>>

I totally see her point. Top shelf is like, $450oz in a dispensary. They can't be paying 1/2 that much for it. It's cheaper on the street. I have no problem with capitalism, but it sure seems to me that *someone* is making a ton of $ off a "non-profit". I say drop the charade, call it what it is, and let the market set the prices.

MsMJ
06-03-2010, 04:43 PM
I have seen $800 ounces at dispensaries in West LA. No "compassion" at that price. When I hear dispensaries use the words "non profit and "compassion" it makes me laugh.

Von
06-05-2010, 09:12 AM
You can't have capitalism AND not-for-profit enterprises in the same country. Move to Russia if you're so angry.

What do you think runs Russia. Capitalism or communism?

None for profit and capitalism are like totally morons with oxy problems duddddee:confused: Just imagine a economy driven by compassion (Zimbabwe...j/k)...ROFL HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

If only I knew how to grow... then price wont make a diffence or over price for that matter.

My list: CHR ... sucks $70 8ths.... lol for some not so BOMB OG

DPHil.Socrates
06-06-2010, 04:54 AM
The only reason dispensaries charge typical black market prices, is because that's their only competition (and more often than not, that's their supply chain). Why would they charge less, when they can charge the same and make just as much per pound sold? People who are complaining about $450 o's really confuse me... Obviously if they have something unique enough to sell for that price in the midst of literally thousands of competitors as well as the black market, people will want it. Maybe not you or I, but some asshole out there is for sure going to see that bud and need to buy it.

Drums
06-06-2010, 05:28 AM
The only reason dispensaries charge typical black market prices, is because that's their only competition (and more often than not, that's their supply chain). Why would they charge less, when they can charge the same and make just as much per pound sold? People who are complaining about $450 o's really confuse me... Obviously if they have something unique enough to sell for that price in the midst of literally thousands of competitors as well as the black market, people will want it. Maybe not you or I, but some asshole out there is for sure going to see that bud and need to buy it.>>>

I think the complaint is only that the dispensaries are supposed to be non-profit (not to mention "compassionate"). Charge what you want, and make as much $ as you want, just drop the charade.

Tebin
06-15-2010, 06:25 AM
>>>I think the complaint is only that the dispensaries are supposed to be non-profit (not to mention "compassionate"). Charge what you want, and make as much $ as you want, just drop the charade.

Better yet legalize it. If it's legal and openly regulated then the price of marijuana would drop significantly in a matter of weeks/months. I don't live in cali and I won't pretend that I know every angle on this matter, but it only seems to reasonable to do so. (I love hash!)

Drums
06-15-2010, 07:10 AM
Better yet legalize it. If it's legal and openly regulated then the price of marijuana would drop significantly in a matter of weeks/months. I don't live in cali and I won't pretend that I know every angle on this matter, but it only seems to reasonable to do so. (I love hash!)>>>>

Well, I *think* I agree with you, but people have made legitimate arguments that the opposite would happen. Gonna get weird here for sure if this passes.

TasK211
06-15-2010, 07:22 AM
>>>

I think the complaint is only that the dispensaries are supposed to be non-profit (not to mention "compassionate"). Charge what you want, and make as much $ as you want, just drop the charade.

well put DRUMS ..........

Tebin
06-17-2010, 07:59 AM
>>>>

Well, I *think* I agree with you, but people have made legitimate arguments that the opposite would happen. Gonna get weird here for sure if this passes.

Man I hope not. I'm not fortunate enough to live in a state that accepts medicinal cannabis and I'm rooting for Cali to stand up and cause a scene about this shit. They were one of the first places to say,"To hell with the bullshit" and made it readily available with a prescription. Now all they have to do is make it legal and I believe that the majority or the other states will do so after they see how much money is available in taxes. As to the pricing:If it's legal and you don't like the price at whatever dispensary store they decide to sell it from,then grow your own and it'll be free. Might take some time to perfect it but it'd be a fulfilling venture that I can only dream of doing. I seriously am debating quitting my job and trying to find a place to work in California, then see if I can't grow for a dispensary or at least work with the plants.

Drums
06-17-2010, 08:30 AM
Man I hope not. I'm not fortunate enough to live in a state that accepts medicinal cannabis and I'm rooting for Cali to stand up and cause a scene about this shit. They were one of the first places to say,"To hell with the bullshit" and made it readily available with a prescription. Now all they have to do is make it legal and I believe that the majority or the other states will do so after they see how much money is available in taxes. As to the pricing:If it's legal and you don't like the price at whatever dispensary store they decide to sell it from,then grow your own and it'll be free. Might take some time to perfect it but it'd be a fulfilling venture that I can only dream of doing. I seriously am debating quitting my job and trying to find a place to work in California, then see if I can't grow for a dispensary or at least work with the plants.>>>

Well...I'd hold off till after Nov...and after a local case gets settled. Don't have a link, but I'm sure you can google it. The feds raided a bunch of SD dispensaries awhile ago. Only a couple faced charges though. One of them is using "Pres O'Bama said he (the Feds) wouldn't prosecute dispensaries" (he *did* say this) as a defense. If the circuit court rules against him, I'd have to think it'll wind up in the Supreme Ct. However- you have to remember that, despite what CA votes on, marijuana is against *federal* law. You'd *think* the Feds would have bigger fish to fry, but would you risk prison to test the theory?

johard59
08-15-2010, 11:08 AM
Yeah really its a great post its true so many people are making profits out of dispensary's which should be declared as illegal and no one in our society cares about this if we raise slogan definitely changes occurs.

Bigsampson
08-20-2010, 12:58 PM
"Great post! Its a shame all people care about is Money Money Money."

well I agree with half of what you guys are saying but as someone who is involved in most aspects of running a club I can tell you the difference in street dealers, clubs, and shady clubs. As for us and our collective we pay medical benefits, rent (haha this isnt a an apartment and when you need to put down $30k deposit to rent a place it makes it hard), normal prices on weed $3k a .lb, lawyers , business supplies, employee salaries....I wont go into detail but we are a non profit compassion collective and after paying all that my boss still caps the weed at $55 for are best fire and tax is included. Personally I like to think of South Bay CRC as a model for compassion. When you have your whole lively hood thrown into something that does not get you rich and then hear people bitch when we dont sell super high grade weed for $45 its laughable and I want to just tell them to get the hell out when they get mad. I don't because it's not right as an employee to act that way. Not every club is trying to get rich but you can tell when the owners are obviously people who have no real passion other then to make money. I go to so many expo's etc and find owners of clubs that seem to be insurance agents that have been hit hard by the economy so they decide they should invest there earnings into what is considered to be the new dotcom industry for california. This will only get worse over time as they legalize it but the clubs like mine that stay true to the low key way of business using word of mouth and good business practices are the ones that will last and have the best member/employee relationship. BTW we personaly are like a local marijuana sports bar without the smoking ....Sharks games, Niners games, and more...but in the end the business does not run unless you are making money to reinvest into it. I might sound like a fool with what I wrote but I am super ripped and love you all! keep growing keep the compassion and spread the love.

Drums
08-21-2010, 05:31 AM
Sounds like your collective is run *right*. As you know, (and as I've seen firsthand), many aren't. Again, I don't have a problem with (free-market)capitalism; just call it what it is.

TasK211
08-21-2010, 09:39 AM
Sounds like your collective is run *right*. As you know, (and as I've seen firsthand), many aren't. Again, I don't have a problem with (free-market)capitalism; just call it what it is.
STRAIGHT UP! (again)

wheezer
08-22-2010, 12:08 AM
I totally agree with Drums on this, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....it's a duck. I believe that people that have a true love for the plant and the people, and truly care about the well being of another human being over their own selfish desires, deserves to have a comfortable lifestyle. It does sound like BSAM club are doing things the right way, and people are making money too, and that's great they should, but like Drums said, let's stop acting like no ones getting paid in this business, it just makes us look foolish to the public cause they know better. If we're making money, we're paying taxes and putting money back into the economy. There is much of Norcals economy supported by illegally gained funds being poured into the local economies and keeping them afloat. That's why the local governments up here aren't running around trying to bust every garden they can find. I f they actually eradicated an entire years harvest, the economy in N rcal would fall apart and towns would literally become ghost towns. It goes way deeper than just what you see on the suface. Hell , I could preach on thisall night but I'll stop.

HaVoK
11-18-2010, 07:30 AM
The only real way to get rid of these over priced dispensaries would be to legalize and regulate, because no matter where you go there is someone out there that'll buy from these over priced dispensaries and keep them in business. If it were legalized then the prices would drop significantly.


~HaVoK

truffles
11-29-2010, 05:40 PM
It didn't pass here in California. And if it had, would we still have dispensaries around?

H1JACK3R
12-05-2010, 07:42 AM
Dispensaries are established businesses with established sources and clientele. I doubt they would have gone anywhere for the most part.

Bigsampson
12-05-2010, 08:10 AM
Dispensaries are established businesses with established sources and clientele. I doubt they would have gone anywhere for the most part.


Actually to operate a collective the right way in California you can not operate it as a business. You actually have to be a non profit fraternal order. Like the Elk's Lodge, Rotary Club, or Kiwani's. Anything you make past your initial start up and upkeep cost your legally suppose to put back into the community. Funny thing is that none really do and that is why they are getting raided and shutdown in the Bay Area.

Funny thing is how ASA supports these collectives and tries to defend mobile dispensaries that have been carrying firearms and well over the amount a driver should ever have on them. The real kicker is local and federal agents will shut down a collective and take all its goods and seize there banbks accounts.Then they will take the flowers the confiscated and try and sell it to other collectives for a dirt cheap price. Then they wait a few weeks and see that the collectives are selling the flowers for like $65-$75 an 8th. What happens is now they are profiting in a big way and make a joke out of the whole non profit deal they thought they could abuse.

Lot of collectives are learning how there suppose to operate but still it is such a grey area that really it is time for regulations on a clear path on how collectives should operate.

H1JACK3R
12-05-2010, 08:49 AM
I'm glad the collective heads (like Chubbs) have found a way to make a comfortable living providing a service. 65-75 an eighth is rape.

Bigsampson
12-05-2010, 07:38 PM
I have no problem with the price of $65 an 8th if the collective is buying from vendors. We just started to harvest but we have 1 or 2 strains that a certain vendors sells us for $1200 a QP. The stuff is amazing and it sells out fast but I do not recommend it to people on a budget, For that we have what we grew for $35 an 8th and its pretty dam good for the price. Still sucks to have to charge those prices but it's hard to find a good spot to grow in the city.

H1JACK3R
12-06-2010, 06:25 AM
I gotta be honest even at 1200 a qp (which is insane) 65 an eighth is still ridiculous. That's more than 60% profit for a supposedly non-profit organization.

stak
12-06-2010, 08:34 AM
i still cant believe people can afford this stuff on a regular basis...its crazy...no way id be able to continue at an oz a month if i were paying even 400/oz let alone 60-70/8th. can you even imagine the number of people that arent getting the medicine they need due to high prices? its sad really. ive seen very very very little(im going drums here) *compassion* from these places. rather it seems to me that cali is full of designer cannabis outlets

tanders
12-06-2010, 11:10 AM
Dude try being from New Jersey. It's worse here. Cali, really is just full of designer pot shops, through and through it's the rich, snobby way of life.

But whatever, it's what they have to do to make what they do acceptable. Hopefully one day it'll be mulled over, but the cost of living in California is rather steep, so they do need to charge what they need to, to get by.

I'd much rather sell marijuana and see it sold for dirt cheap, but sometimes lots of money needs to go into the process and the return needs to be made somewhere

Bigsampson
12-06-2010, 05:21 PM
That's more than 60% profit for a supposedly non-profit organization.

No it isn't not when you have to pay for all the costs of an operation. inside of really making about on average $1500 a day on gross sales we still have to pay massive commercial rent, lawyers, product, employee's, freebies, and a shit ton of other things. On top of that the initial $100k used to fill the shop up with chairs , computers, and other needed supplies it really is not that much. I see where it might look like it is but trust me it isn't. Alone my boss paid a grand for me to get some dental work done. Also when we make BHO what do you think about the prices of that? To use a QP of your own nugs bought and to make only 15 grams from it an d to sell it for $35 we lose money. Trust me not all collectives make the kind of money that CPA,Angels Care, Harborside make. we would be lucky to make $100k a year unlike the $21 mill Harborside made...

I don't recommend the high price flowers to people that is something they can decide on there own. I will always steer people in the direction of are $35 8ths and the concentrates we make. How do you feel about the price of $60 a gram for concentrates like earwax? That stuff is vended for $600-$700 an ounce. Takes about 2 .lbs to make an ounce.

Bigsampson
12-06-2010, 05:22 PM
We are trying to work are way toward are own big grow operation to sell 8ths only at $30 but do to the lack of land to grow on it's hard to get there fast. Maybe in a year or 2 we can get there and offer what we would like to do right now....but the reality is it is not feasible.

H1JACK3R
12-06-2010, 05:40 PM
You're right Sampson, my post was, for lack of a better word, short-sighted. I understand there are ALOT of costs. Especially during start up. Some dispensaries can practically print money though. Also, though I'm not from San Fran, I know the real estate there is some of the highest in the country and realize it would be hard to stay open in that environment.

Bigsampson
12-08-2010, 08:57 AM
H1jacker your right at the same time. There are lots of collectives that abuse what they have and charge an arm and aleg even when they grow all there own flowers. Really without the regulation from the state it will never be perfect.

H1JACK3R
12-09-2010, 04:46 AM
Sampson how do you feel about the regulatory actions taken by the Co IRS?

Bigsampson
12-09-2010, 09:11 AM
ya no I don't really no much about it off the top of my head.

H1JACK3R
12-10-2010, 03:58 PM
The irs is requiring EVERY GROWER and dispensary to have cameras wired for 24 hour surveillance that's on a live a feed. Talk about big brother.

Grasstronaut
12-11-2010, 12:40 AM
the irs can suck my dick. they arnt a part of the federal govt. what gives them the right to tax people?

if they wanted a camera in my room i'd just hang out infront of it and do crazy shit n write signs to them saying shit like get a real job faggot

H1JACK3R
12-11-2010, 05:27 AM
Not if the guy on the otherside of the camera gets to DECIDE what your yearly application fee will be.

Bigsampson
12-11-2010, 08:54 AM
wow I didnt no about that. The IRS is a piece of shit anyways. I don;t think it will happen....least I hope.

MichNuggets
12-11-2010, 09:29 AM
not only that but i guess they send out these weasels that inspect ur plants n shit so u cant harvest one without them knowing. on the msnbc show they had some ex cop that worked for the IRS and went around with a microscope checking peoples plants in their grow room.

Drums
12-11-2010, 10:05 AM
not only that but i guess they send out these weasels that inspect ur plants n shit so u cant harvest one without them knowing. on the msnbc show they had some ex cop that worked for the IRS and went around with a microscope checking peoples plants in their grow room.
>>>

This is surprising? You think the Gvt is gonna let a buncha stoners make zillion$ without getting their share? I have no idea why they allow "non-profit" dispensaries to make *any* $ in the first place. Of course I'm against this, but you know it's coming.

H1JACK3R
12-13-2010, 06:45 AM
I wonder how they're going to wire up outdoor grows.

Grasstronaut
12-13-2010, 08:43 AM
the eye in the sky sees all

H1JACK3R
12-14-2010, 07:15 AM
Grass: Word.

Twylights
12-20-2010, 07:40 AM
I love how people talk about Cali being all designer shops that's a bunch of shit untill you live and work here your oppinion is just WRONG>

H1JACK3R
12-20-2010, 07:53 AM
Who said that?
I believe some to be overpriced. not all.

Twylights
12-20-2010, 09:18 AM
I believe it was Tanders and some shops are paying $5000 and up for a pound of the DANK and I know you all think you know fire however if you knew what these shops pay this thread would still exist because like MsMj said $800 an OZ now that's a little overpriced but $450 is just how much some has to go for. My advice would be smoke something cheaper.

Drums
12-20-2010, 10:34 AM
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying...but it sounds like you think herb *should* go for $450/oz? That's nuts.


I believe it was Tanders and some shops are paying $5000 and up for a pound of the DANK and I know you all think you know fire however if you knew what these shops pay this thread would still exist because like MsMj said $800 an OZ now that's a little overpriced but $450 is just how much some has to go for. My advice would be smoke something cheaper.

tanders
12-20-2010, 10:38 AM
I love how people talk about Cali being all designer shops that's a bunch of shit untill you live and work here your oppinion is just WRONG>

I said California is FULL of them, not that's all there is, and tell me I'm wrong. Because it is indeed full of insanely overpriced dispensaries.

Anyone dumb enough to pay 5k a pound in California deserves to not make any money. That's about what my price was for the same product on the east coast.

Marijuana should never cost the ridiculous price it does, but no one can make any money if everyone is just out to produce as much pot as possible and try to sell it off as the dopest dope ever. Sometimes fire really is fire, and there is a price to pay, but I've happily paid $450 for an ounce, but I sure as hell would love to see quite a bit of cost drop off that motherfucker

Kansas
12-20-2010, 11:59 AM
Not really a part of this discussion or ne thing but Twylights I saw stak said Cali was full of "designer" clubs, it wasn't tanders

not that it really matters though hahaha I don't know why I do that shit I must have like OCD

TasK211
12-20-2010, 01:07 PM
Out here in IE its a HIT n MISS, most despen. out here r wake with 25grm that look like $10 house specials, weak sauce! theres ONLY 3 that can back up the GLAM..

Twylights
12-20-2010, 01:13 PM
Look I don't even know why I'm wasting my energy on this you guy's have never smoked the herb I'm talking about and that's cool theres plenty of good herb for $200-250 a zone but some of us like to spoil ourselves with the high dollar herb. There are some strains that just cost that much to produce I know because that's the biz I'm in. I hope this clears some shit up.

Drums
12-20-2010, 03:20 PM
I still don't understand you. I'm sure among those of us in this thread we've smoked 1000 top-shelf herbs. Are you saying that only *you* have ever gotten ahold of good weed? Of the 100's I've had, NONE are worth $450/oz, including the ones that are so freaking potent I'm afraid to smoke more than 1 hit. It's a *weed*. Yeah, lots goes into growing top-shelf, but not enough to make it $450/oz. Even Wheezer, who probably grows strains you never ever *heard* of thinks $450/oz is absurd.


Look I don't even know why I'm wasting my energy on this you guy's have never smoked the herb I'm talking about and that's cool theres plenty of good herb for $200-250 a zone but some of us like to spoil ourselves with the high dollar herb. There are some strains that just cost that much to produce I know because that's the biz I'm in. I hope this clears some shit up.

stak
12-20-2010, 03:29 PM
@twylights

that didnt clear much up at all. in other words you said we dont smoke bomb like u so we dont know shit. heh

TCC(toronto compassion centre) charges 11$/g for bomb chocolate thai(and thats the most ive ever seen them charge. normally its 8$)

the pink kush i reviewed can stand up to anything on the site. 260/oz for that particular BOMB batch. normally cheaper around 220/oz.

so if they sell that pound at TCC gram for gram at 11$ they dont even make back 5000$. 11x28=308. 308x16=4928. now im sure theyre making a decent cut from that 5000$ and yet yall in cali are paying 5000$ to begin with? ive not once seen anything on marijuanareviews thats worth paying 60/8th for. sorry, but yall trying to justify spending half your paycheck to smoke out is rough.

Grasstronaut
12-20-2010, 03:37 PM
stak that avatar pic is DOPE. gotta love the elements.

but yeah prices do seem jacked up at most places. I smoke hash for cheaper then what most people pay for bud so whatever I'm an elitest asshole with a humboldt connect so I don't see things on the same scale as most people. Just noone should act like we all don't see dank cuz if I grabbed herb not even having a choice in strain I would come up with some dankness that can stand toe to toe with anything anyone wants to throw down including Nuggetry OG

Drums
12-20-2010, 03:43 PM
Amen brother. So...if I understand him correctly...he alone knows what good herb is, and his herb is worth TWICE your shwaugy PK. Also, twice as much effort went into growing his.


@twylights

that didnt clear much up at all. in other words you said we dont smoke bomb like u so we dont know shit. heh

TCC(toronto compassion centre) charges 11$/g for bomb chocolate thai(and thats the most ive ever seen them charge. normally its 8$)

the pink kush i reviewed can stand up to anything on the site. 260/oz for that particular BOMB batch. normally cheaper around 220/oz.

so if they sell that pound at TCC gram for gram at 11$ they dont even make back 5000$. 11x28=308. 308x16=4928. now im sure theyre making a decent cut from that 5000$ and yet yall in cali are paying 5000$ to begin with? ive not once seen anything on marijuanareviews thats worth paying 60/8th for. sorry, but yall trying to justify spending half your paycheck to smoke out is rough.

Twylights
12-20-2010, 04:24 PM
Not what I'm saying at all just saying when you look at a menu and just bitch about the prices without knowing how the strain got there grow costs and all kind of things come in to play. I'm also saying if you have never paid the price you have never smoked the herb unless you grew it. I pay the price and grow the herb so I have deffinitely smoked good but until I moved to Cali and I know some of you llive here I hadn't smoked the best. I'm not trying to start any shit just trying to explain the crazy prices. Until grow costs like high ass electric bills and high ass property tax not to mention cost of a humble living go down FIRE herb will remain in the stratosphere $400-480 a zip and I can understand that's a bitch. Grab sum good outdoor for the low and get down it's all the same if your high and happy. Sory I offended anybody never my intentions to do so just want to inform people and I just end up sounding like a dick and get everyone stired up sory but it's realy kind of funny. OOPS

wheezer
12-20-2010, 05:37 PM
hahahahah too funny! I know what you meant twy.

stak
12-20-2010, 05:52 PM
my poor shwaggy pk :(

thats cool twylights. i hope one day we can all grow legally and share genetics to ultimately keep the herb we all love getting better and better :)

TasK211
12-20-2010, 07:50 PM
FIRE herb will remain in the stratosphere $400-480 a zip and I can understand that's a bitch. Grab sum good outdoor for the low and get down it's all the same if your high and happy.
well put Twy. i cant afford top shelf even once a month, at least i can get into a dispensary n "get down" on MEDS. Not to stir no shit up either, but i get negative vibes from here, just having an idea to have a "ghetto closet grow" and not having a "pro-stoner" set up and growing 100% by the book. It to HAVE herbs to be "high and happy"

H1JACK3R
12-20-2010, 08:58 PM
Task, I don't think anyone was trying to put your grow down, with the cfls, just didn't want you to get your hopes up, because you won't be able to produce much with them.

Drums
12-21-2010, 06:54 AM
Dude...not trying to argue with you, but as a grower you really have no objectivity. I just read Stak's PK review, and all the comments. That sure looks/sounds like some serious herb, and it's $260 in Canada. So...because we pay higher electric bills/etc it should go for *twice* that here? No, I'm afraid you can *try* all you want, but you're not gonna come up with a good enough reason why weed needs to be $450/oz here. It's ridiculous.


Not what I'm saying at all just saying when you look at a menu and just bitch about the prices without knowing how the strain got there grow costs and all kind of things come in to play. I'm also saying if you have never paid the price you have never smoked the herb unless you grew it. I pay the price and grow the herb so I have deffinitely smoked good but until I moved to Cali and I know some of you llive here I hadn't smoked the best. I'm not trying to start any shit just trying to explain the crazy prices. Until grow costs like high ass electric bills and high ass property tax not to mention cost of a humble living go down FIRE herb will remain in the stratosphere $400-480 a zip and I can understand that's a bitch. Grab sum good outdoor for the low and get down it's all the same if your high and happy. Sory I offended anybody never my intentions to do so just want to inform people and I just end up sounding like a dick and get everyone stired up sory but it's realy kind of funny. OOPS

Twylights
12-21-2010, 06:59 AM
Dude sory you have no clue and I'm done trying to help out. You pay $60 and $55 an eighth happily so what you say here is just a smoke screen your allready cool with paying the high price and you can't even see it LMFAO!

Drums
12-21-2010, 07:04 AM
Well, I tried to be nice, but you're just being a dick. I don't "happily" pay $60, I pay it because I *have* to. Is English your second language, because you sure don't seem to understand it.


Dude sory you have no clue and I'm done trying to help out. You pay $60 and $55 an eighth happily so what you say here is just a smoke screen your allready cool with paying the high price and you can't even see it LMFAO!

Twylights
12-21-2010, 07:16 AM
Another thing make your time worth it to collective owners and you will get the $450 dank for a much lower price. If you take some time to produce something nice for a collective Hash,Cuttings,eddibles,or just flowers you will recieve better pricing and treatment. I can't remember the last time I picked up anything for more than $45 and would allways regulary be $60-65. I understand not everyone can grow and be a productive member of a collective so there are a ton of $45 caps for you guy's. Price has really been met by certain collectives so shop there and live happily ever after. However if the expensive collective has what you want just grin and bear it they ussually have what I want so I had to create an angle and I did.

H1JACK3R
12-21-2010, 07:26 AM
You mean, like dropping off ten grams of BHO to chubbs? That sounds like an expensive way to get a discount.

H1JACK3R
12-21-2010, 07:27 AM
PS- If had the means, I'd probably do the same thing.

Drums
12-21-2010, 07:38 AM
Dude! You don't seem to understand that every time you open your mouth your argument gets weaker. So....pot *should* cost $450/oz, but *you* don't pay that. Selah.

I don't "grin and bear it", I grit my teeth and bear it. How the hell does Canada get dank for 1/2 of what SoCal does?? Greed. Plain and simple.


Another thing make your time worth it to collective owners and you will get the $450 dank for a much lower price. If you take some time to produce something nice for a collective Hash,Cuttings,eddibles,or just flowers you will recieve better pricing and treatment. I can't remember the last time I picked up anything for more than $45 and would allways regulary be $60-65. I understand not everyone can grow and be a productive member of a collective so there are a ton of $45 caps for you guy's. Price has really been met by certain collectives so shop there and live happily ever after. However if the expensive collective has what you want just grin and bear it they ussually have what I want so I had to create an angle and I did.

H1JACK3R
12-21-2010, 07:49 AM
Drums, socal prices are WAY over IL prices.

Drums
12-21-2010, 07:56 AM
Yeah, BUT- we grow the stuff here. It's the #1 cash crop in CA (and we feed 1/2 the country with our produce!) It should certainly be cheaper than *Canada*.


Drums, socal prices are WAY over IL prices.

H1JACK3R
12-21-2010, 08:10 AM
Hey man, what's wrong with Canada, eh?

Twylights
12-21-2010, 08:12 AM
Drums_ It is cheaper trust me I would like nothing more to talk to you face to face and show you around to places that do sell the fire for the low. However it still doesn't compare to some of the fire going for outrageous prices. I know it sucks but there are reasons and NO Canadas dank is not in the same ballpark as the herb I'm talking of. These are hollygrail Ca. strains that just cost a shit ton to produce and yes some coops put the large yielders on the same shelf and I stay away from those places. By the way Jacker I didn't GIVE Chubb's anything I was smoking and loving some NUGGETRY for a cool minuite! I normally just get the samples I'm given by shops but every now and then like Drums said I grit my teeth and pay outrageous prices. I'm in no way arguing I am simply trying to ease minds but I didn't sucessfully do that lol. Drums I think your a cool and smart dude but gets mad offended when I state an oppinion on something that I really know alot about. In ways I'm alot the same hence me replying like I do but I have allot of love for everyone on here and the people I have met through this sit are genuine people who I can not only call friends but can depend on them to help me when I need help. I trully hope this squashes any anamosity you might and I say might have towards me(maybe you just like to argue it's all good) have a great day and happy holliday's to you and your family!

Drums
12-21-2010, 08:12 AM
What are ya takken aboot?


Hey man, what's wrong with Canada, eh?

Drums
12-21-2010, 08:26 AM
Dude, I harbor no animosity towards you...although if someone calls me a name (clueless), I tend to fire back. I just think that, as a grower, you don't share the perspective of us forum *consumers*. Even Wheezer, who seems to know something about growing, thinks the prices are too high. We keep hearing about a big glut this year, and that wholesale prices are WAY down. Haven't noticed the dispensaries passing along that savings. And, looking at that PK, and the comments by those that smoked it, I just can't see that CA has herb that's *twice* that good. We are getting hosed. The same thing happens with gasoline. It comes into ports not far from here, yet it's way cheaper anywhere *but* here. Nothin but love brother....but we're gonna have agree to disagree.


Drums_ It is cheaper trust me I would like nothing more to talk to you face to face and show you around to places that do sell the fire for the low. However it still doesn't compare to some of the fire going for outrageous prices. I know it sucks but there are reasons and NO Canadas dank is not in the same ballpark as the herb I'm talking of. These are hollygrail Ca. strains that just cost a shit ton to produce and yes some coops put the large yielders on the same shelf and I stay away from those places. By the way I didn't GIVE Chubb's anything I was smoking and loving some NUGGETRY for a cool minuite! I normally just get the samples I'm given by shops but every now and then like Drums said I grit my teeth and pay outrageous prices. I'm in no way arguing I am simply trying to ease minds but I didn't sucessfully do that lol. Drums I think your a cool and smart dude but gets mad offended when I state an oppinion on something that I really know alot about. In ways I'm alot the same hence me replying like I do but I have allot of love for everyone on here and the people I have met through this sit are genuine people who I can not only call friends but depend on them to help me when I need help. I trully hope this squashes any anamosity you might and I say might have towards me(maybe you just like to argue it's all good) have a great day and happy holliday's to you and your family!

Twylights
12-21-2010, 08:44 AM
If you read my post I agree that some places charge too much but there are way to many places CPA included that really are trying to make the people happy. I'm more on the indoor side of things than Wheez so I don't share his prospective however he would tell you it's common sence that if a strain takes two lights to yield a pound and another takes just one it's simple math. I'm sory I called you clueless that was a little harsh but as a grower I just know the inns and outs and unfortunately the insane prices on some strains is just where they have to be to make it available. Yet there are tons of places that you would love and I am going to PM you them and you have to make it to the Southbay and I need to head down to SD. I would love to show you the places I go to and the people are awesome. The herb that is so cheap everywhere else is still not the Holly Grail we toke on trust me I have lived in 13 states and smoked the best Canada has to offer so this is an educated observation. The herb that goes for $200-300 here is what everyone else is smoking trust me Drums we in Cali smoke the best you should be proud bro.

Drums
12-21-2010, 09:03 AM
Well...I've smoked $300/oz stuff here in CA that was C+ grade. Stak paid less than that for what several people in that thread called "the best they ever had". I'm sure there are dispensaries doing things the "right" way, and this is really more about them that the growers, but people are making fortunes. I've said before that I don't have a problem with that. This is the US of freaking A, get yours. However, dispensaries are *supposed* to be "non-profit", and at $450/oz, that's not even fathomable.I too know something about this business. I have a few PD friends, and the $ they talk about that flows through some of the bigger dispensaries here...well, if I said the #'s no one would even believe it. Definately get to SD sometime. I never get to LA. I am going to SF next week...and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to take a forced tolerance break cuz I ain't flying with herb.

stak
12-21-2010, 09:17 AM
twylights. nothing is making any sense here other than you guys are being hosed by cost of living. cali grows the best pot how? special lights that canadians dont have? special genetics? special brains? nope. nope. nope. sure you guys grow the highest quantity of quality cannabis, but thats becuase your state has more people than my country. and i read your comment in my pk review, it seems you havent tasted SOME of the best cannabis canada has to offer. my point is that there's NOT ONE THING cali has that i cant get my hands on and grow. believe that

Grasstronaut
12-21-2010, 10:12 AM
I thought you cali heads can fy within the state with herb if your a med patient.

And is it much of a tolerance break if you only take a few hits at a time when you smoke? Its not like your blazing a gram or more each sesh like some people do.

Drums
12-21-2010, 10:57 AM
1) Nobody has confirmed that, and I ain't gonna be the first.

2) Makes no difference if you smoke 2 hits or 2oz/day. Your tolerance is what it it is, and it''ll go down when you stop.


I thought you cali heads can fy within the state with herb if your a med patient.

And is it much of a tolerance break if you only take a few hits at a time when you smoke? Its not like your blazing a gram or more each sesh like some people do.

Grasstronaut
12-21-2010, 11:13 AM
IE said it in this review

http://www.marijuanareviews.com/eat-caps-harborside-health-center-ie420patient-2652.html

If you need a connect in SF let me kno and I'll ask my boy if he can hook you up with his grower. If not just walk around Haight street or go to Hippy Hill in Golden Gate Park you'll find people hustling tree.

Twylights
12-21-2010, 11:19 AM
@Stack-Yes it's our genetics that make our herb the best hands down. I mean it's simple these strains are grown only by a certain few.

Drums
12-21-2010, 11:28 AM
I plan on being right there, but it's pretty doubtfull since I'll have family with me. I could always sneak off somewhere, but timing/etc could be a problem.


IE said it in this review

http://www.marijuanareviews.com/eat-caps-harborside-health-center-ie420patient-2652.html

If you need a connect in SF let me kno and I'll ask my boy if he can hook you up with his grower. If not just walk around Haight street or go to Hippy Hill in Golden Gate Park you'll find people hustling tree.

BertFromEburg
12-21-2010, 12:15 PM
@Twy

What kind of genetics are we talking about? What strains etc?

Seeds from the major seed banks that win the CC can be obtained in all places. My 25% (according to Barney's) Pineapple chunk or almost 23% THC content Super Lemon Haze have got to be close to this 'Killer Cali Weed'.

I don't mean any disrespect, just curious. If there is some crazier stuff my goal is to find it and keep the strain.

Drums
12-21-2010, 12:22 PM
Exactly! CA may have the most , but *anyone* can grow good weed.


@Twy

What kind of genetics are we talking about? What strains etc?

Seeds from the major seed banks that win the CC can be obtained in all places. My 25% (according to Barney's) Pineapple chunk or almost 23% THC content Super Lemon Haze have got to be close to this 'Killer Cali Weed'.

I don't mean any disrespect, just curious. If there is some crazier stuff my goal is to find it and keep the strain.

Grasstronaut
12-21-2010, 12:36 PM
Anyone can win a cup to be honest. If any of the coffeeshops entered Cali Connection gear hands down Swerve would win a cup and actually deserve it. super lemon haze is a ok sativa but the elite cali genetics Swerve got out will outsmoke SLH any day.

But I think twy is talking about clone only strains that people horde cuts of.

tanders
12-21-2010, 01:25 PM
Yeah, there are tons of strains circulating Cali (shock shock I could get them here on the East Coast too, what were you talking about Humbolt fire?) that stay in Cali genetically because some people don't like to share their genetics. I think that's just wrong, but whatever anyone can create crazy genetics if you have the right starting point.

Right now California really is the weed capital of the world, but BY NO MEANS does that mean that the product found there is magically better than what people can get elsewhere

stak
12-21-2010, 02:18 PM
i guess only people on the west coast have the mental capacity to spot genetically elite phenos while us east coasters are just barely smart enough to put fire to schwag :(

Drums
12-21-2010, 02:24 PM
Well...if you were *that* smart you'd move to CA. :)

("making people jealous of our weather" jokes lose some effectiveness when I'm in the middle of building a freaking ark. )


i guess only people on the west coast have the mental capacity to spot genetically elite phenos while us east coasters are just barely smart enough to put fire to schwag :(

Grasstronaut
12-21-2010, 02:39 PM
i guess only people on the west coast have the mental capacity to spot genetically elite phenos while us east coasters are just barely smart enough to put fire to schwag :(

Nah man. Us east coasters can hold down with the best of the west its just they are more legal so they got better access to more shit but that doesn't make quality any better.

H1JACK3R
12-21-2010, 06:42 PM
I have a feeling more than a few of us non-med patients could smoke most Ca residents under the table.

Grasstronaut
12-21-2010, 10:04 PM
I have a feeling more than a few of us non-med patients could smoke most Ca residents under the table.

Just depends on whos on the CA team. Not everyone smokes hardcore like how some of us do.

Twylights
12-21-2010, 11:36 PM
Hey I have lived all over the US so my opinion is just based on fact and no these are elite clone only strains that if you read my threads were trying to get them out to everyone. One day it might make it out there. You can buy OG seeds on line but they are not the OG we have in clone only form here in Cali. I'm not trying to talk shit and if you were smart you would move to Cali classic Drums I like that one. I was smart and I took my proud east coast ass out here and got straight SCHOOLED!

FuzzyNugget
12-22-2010, 02:19 AM
hahaha yea i was thinking to myself as i smoke bongs of this chemdawg id love to have a east vs west bong off against chubbs lmfao
I have a feeling more than a few of us non-med patients could smoke most Ca residents under the table.

FuzzyNugget
12-22-2010, 02:57 AM
Hey I have lived all over the US so my opinion is just based on fact and no these are elite clone only strains that if you read my threads were trying to get them out to everyone. One day it might make it out there. You can buy OG seeds on line but they are not the OG we have in clone only form here in Cali. I'm not trying to talk shit and if you were smart you would move to Cali classic Drums I like that one. I was smart and I took my proud east coast ass out here and got straight SCHOOLED! im not so sure that they are "elite" they really just have ideal growing condtions for sure and also the really big factor like few have already stated is that its still not legal everywhere.

H1JACK3R
12-22-2010, 04:59 AM
I will admit, I'd do pretty much anything for some old school OG genetics.

I smoke on average a quarter of dank, and a couple grams of varying concentrates. And that's on days I work.

If it's the weekend I don't bother keeping track.

wheezer
12-22-2010, 07:23 AM
Well, after reading all this, and remembeing what I hear Chubbs claim, I'm confused! I thought Chubbs had the best weed in the world, but now I'm hearing Twylights has the best......IDK.......I live up here where the majority (indoor and out)of weedis grown, and every grower up here thinks his shit is the best. I know mines not, but I also know no one person or group of people have the best in the world!! Deflate your heads a little will ya please!

Twylights
12-22-2010, 08:51 AM
Never said I have the best just saying Cali has the best and yes I have some of the elite genetics that I'm talking about. I never say I have the best ever in any post I have written. I do claim to have some of the better genetics but the holly grail still ELUDES me if this better explains. Oh and NUGGETRY while dank as all fuck still isn't what I'm talking about. He has some of the better in that price range but there are boutique shops that still beat them all and Wheezer you know me and know I'm not egotistical I don't know where that came from. I'm as humble as they come just know that Cali is on top of shit and trying to explain the outrageous prices and how there are strains for all budgets that's it.

wheezer
12-22-2010, 09:00 AM
hahaha...man you took it wrong. No hate towards you personally, that was more of a shot at all growers who THINK their stuff is the best. I said earlier I knew what you meant...remember! hehe

FuzzyNugget
12-22-2010, 09:43 AM
Never said I have the best just saying Cali has the best and yes I have some of the elite genetics that I'm talking about. I never say I have the best ever in any post I have written. I do claim to have some of the better genetics but the holly grail still ELUDES me if this better explains. Oh and NUGGETRY while dank as all fuck still isn't what I'm talking about. He has some of the better in that price range but there are boutique shops that still beat them all and Wheezer you know me and know I'm not egotistical I don't know where that came from. I'm as humble as they come just know that Cali is on top of shit and trying to explain the outrageous prices and how there are strains for all budgets that's it.
I see what your saying now yea I guess you are right ;)

stak
12-22-2010, 09:47 AM
ive been giving this more and more thought and ive come to the conclusion that we will never know where the best cannabis currently is. im talking about the one. the 'neo' of marijauna strains/cuts/phenos. i doubt the person thats smoking the most potent batch even knows that he/she is technically smoking the most potent batch as it might be only by a half-percent thc. at the same time some random guy has found a super-rare pheno in his basement and is growing it out right now waiting for it to be the most potent cannabis ever. the fact is we will never ever ever be certain what the best strain/cut/pheno is since the breeding work continues at an unchecked pace due to legal issues is most places. this situation inevitably creates the nasty 'HOARDER'. ive heard stories of single clones selling for $3000!

*beware clone dealers* if by chance you offer me a clone at this price i WILL break your face on the spot and take your clone. thank you in advance :)

on a side note, i just talked to my buddy i used to deal with. incase you didnt already figure out what i did for a living(DID... not anymore)

hes going to get me a list of clone-only strains for the upcoming season. he said theres about 60 strains to pick from anywhere in the range of 5-8$ per clone(maybe more) depending on genetics. when the list is in im going to post it and ask for everyones advice. i am well aware that many strains are unstable and this could cause my finished grow of a certain clone to look different than your batch as the initial grower mightve selected one of the more recessive phenos. bottom line is im not 100% sure of the cut so bear with me. i want everyones help here, yes even you twylights! lets end this debate and agree that we all smoke and appreciate good cannabis. my goal is to become a caregiver in canada and to breed top strains. my cousin has cerebral palsy and lives in british columbia. he is a legal mmj patient and i plan to take a trip out west to chat with him and a few of the people at the centres there.

ill let you guys know as soon as the list is in. time to get my budder on! :)

wheezer
12-22-2010, 10:39 AM
Sorry TWYLIGHTS, I see why you read it wrong..I wrote it wrong. There were 2 seperate thoughts there that got put together.

FuzzyNugget
12-22-2010, 11:48 AM
@ Stak: for sure haha couldnt be said any better man

Grasstronaut
12-22-2010, 11:52 AM
yo stak I got clones out for $2999 lol

BertFromEburg
12-22-2010, 01:10 PM
I will admit, I'd do pretty much anything for some old school OG genetics.

I smoke on average a quarter of dank, and a couple grams of varying concentrates. And that's on days I work.

If it's the weekend I don't bother keeping track.

Hey Jacker, I was reading this and wondering how the hell do you smoke 7+ grams a day at work in Illinois where "Possession of greater than 10 grams is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500" and "if there is any amount of a drug, substance, or compound in the person's breath, blood, or urine resulting from the unlawful use or consumption of cannabis. 625 Ill. Comp. Stat. Ann. § 5/11-501(a) " ?

Grasstronaut
12-22-2010, 01:14 PM
Cuz my nigga is a g and dont give a fuck? Their law not his.

FuzzyNugget
12-22-2010, 01:55 PM
Hey Jacker, I was reading this and wondering how the hell do you smoke 7+ grams a day at work in Illinois where "Possession of greater than 10 grams is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500" and "if there is any amount of a drug, substance, or compound in the person's breath, blood, or urine resulting from the unlawful use or consumption of cannabis. 625 Ill. Comp. Stat. Ann. § 5/11-501(a) " ?
lol why do u know IL laws so well? and easily id say u can always hide bud. and just find a quiet spot good ventilation and uve got a good smoke spot for a public area XD

H1JACK3R
12-22-2010, 03:40 PM
Uh, sorry officer. Good point. I would never do anything that my state and federal government deems unlawful.

How long have you been with the force?

Drums
12-22-2010, 03:43 PM
LOL! I SO wanted to say that.


Uh, sorry officer. Good point. I would never do anything that my state and federal government deems unlawful.

How long have you been with the force?

Twylights
12-22-2010, 11:11 PM
If you think about this plant where is the best of anything? Yea that's what I thought.

stak
12-22-2010, 11:25 PM
If you think about this plant where is the best of anything? Yea that's what I thought.

im not exactly sure what you mean but thats fine. im finished making my point as im sure you are as well. like i said, ill still be asking for your input on my list of clones when it comes in. nothing personal dude :)

Twylights
12-23-2010, 07:28 AM
Nothing but love Wheez I know what you were saying and you know what I'm saying. And Stak no hard feelings at all I really love how you put it down. I didn't allways live in Cali and truth be told I was just as happy smoking in other states with the growers who are taking major chances. With that being said it's just a complete different animal here in Cali it has to be seen (live and work here for a few months) to be believed this is the WEED capitol of the world bar none so.....Another thing Stak I allready give you guys in illegal states so much props for even learning and growing in those conditions. I've paid my dues trust that and might never drive again due to marijuana charges. Have had my liscense suspended for a total of 8yrs so far stiil suspended and been thrown in jail well over ten times over the plant. I then packed up and moved to Cali and have been growing in relative peace ever since.

Drums
12-23-2010, 08:55 AM
Speaking of over-priced dispensaries...did you see the place in SM that was in today's DD? Skywalker for $85 1/8th, $35/gr! Many others were $70/1/8th. In-freaking-sane.

Twylights
12-23-2010, 10:24 PM
HAHA yea Drums that place actually has some unreal meds that they pay $5600 a pound and a little higher sometimes promise you won't find herb like this anywhere. This mesicine is the crim de la crim aka the holly grail lol. They actually are was in the valley and hollywood today loaded up on some dank from some of the local vendors and leme tell you DANKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

BertFromEburg
12-24-2010, 01:21 PM
Uh, sorry officer. Good point. I would never do anything that my state and federal government deems unlawful.

How long have you been with the force?


lol why do u know IL laws so well? and easily id say u can always hide bud. and just find a quiet spot good ventilation and uve got a good smoke spot for a public area XD


LOL I am not on the force, just finishing up my bachelor's and then I'm going to law school. I want to defend poor schleps like us who do nothing to detract from society, but still so easily get a conviction which ends any hopes or aspirations you ever had.

BertFromEburg
12-24-2010, 01:27 PM
HAHA yea Drums that place actually has some unreal meds that they pay $5600 a pound and a little higher sometimes promise you won't find herb like this anywhere. This mesicine is the crim de la crim aka the holly grail lol. They actually are was in the valley and hollywood today loaded up on some dank from some of the local vendors and leme tell you DANKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!


So is this the crazy Cali weed you have been talking about? and do they sell clones of any of this?

tanders
12-25-2010, 11:06 AM
Anyone in California that pays 5600 a pound is just retarded....

I mean, I was paying 5600 a pound for FIRE indoor left and right, and they had to ship it to the East Coast, and it had to go through an organization to get to me.

It's just bad business, I guarantee you that you can find the same quality for half the price, that just sounds like a really greedy team of growers and vendors to me....

Even if you're paying 3k-4k a pound that's still a much more reasonable price than 5600 a pound, that's just a plain joke. No one should have to pay 350 an ounce if you're getting a full pound, especially if you're a dispensary.


oh and stak lives in Canada, not the US, so I don't know what on Earth you're rambling about Twylights, but even though California is the weed capital of the world, half the best shit doesn't even stay in the state. The growers sure know what they're doing, but man is the game SEVERELY miss-managed out there

wheezer
12-25-2010, 12:19 PM
There is nothing in this world that is worth more than what someone will give for it. Gospel of Wheezer Merry Christmas!

FuzzyNugget
12-25-2010, 01:30 PM
haha preach it wheez!

H1JACK3R
12-30-2010, 07:34 PM
I just wish IL *had* over priced dispensaries.

stak
12-31-2010, 08:48 PM
I just wish IL *had* over priced dispensaries.

that is a GREAT comment... some people dont even have dispensaries to bitch about!

H1JACK3R
01-02-2011, 12:27 PM
but for real though. I've thought about moving to canada. I already deal with ridiculous winters in IL. I'd like to never deal with it again though.

Kansas
01-02-2011, 01:56 PM
Word Hijacker. Some not all too I'm sure are Overpriced for a reason so It'd be nice to get something super special or even have the access to view something thats Supposed to be super special even if you have to over pay a bit to try it. You're paying for the ability to shop around IMO. But some do take it to extremes which can be ridiculous

Grasstronaut
01-02-2011, 06:00 PM
Word Hijacker. Some not all too I'm sure are Overpriced for a reason so It'd be nice to get something super special or even have the access to view something thats Supposed to be super special even if you have to over pay a bit to try it. You're paying for the ability to shop around IMO. But some do take it to extremes which can be ridiculous

Example on overpriced: full melt hash at CPA is 60 a g and bubble is 40...thats insane yo because I know 2g of what I smoke will get me a lot higher then 1g of "super" melt

Kansas
01-03-2011, 08:22 AM
Ok Grass I'm glad you mentioned it wat's the difference between Full melt and Super melt?

H1JACK3R
01-03-2011, 10:12 AM
full melt that melts easily im assuming unless nuggetry has some secret further way of extrcting.

Kansas
01-03-2011, 11:45 AM
Thats what I figured so its just another name for Bubble hash that super melts when Lit?

Grasstronaut
01-03-2011, 11:57 AM
Its just marketing man. Noone uses that term besides for Chubbs. Everyone else in the hash game knows its called full melt. On a side note I thought it was funny cuz I asked him bout those crazy hash prices in when we were smoking Amsterdam so he knows its overpriced. the bubble isnt even full melt so I dunno why its 40 a g and the "super melt" costs more money then coke

Bigsampson
01-03-2011, 12:24 PM
haha nuggetry is 100% marketing. I had a boy stop by there (No I won't use his name) and pick up some super and it was average good weed which is not hard to come by in this state. As for prices it depends on the collective itself. I mean we personally only buy QP's - a pound at a time from the top vendors with the super. We pay anywhere from $800 - $900 for super ...and when I say super I mean I will stack it up to any nuggetry any day. San Jose has better prices from vendors for obvious reasons. The problem we like a lot of other cities are having are the city taxes there adding. Name one street dealer who has to pay 15% on all sales haha. Still $85 is enough reason to laugh when they get raided. They are operating against the laws with those prices hands down. There is no way they can show the prices off set the initial cost. Funny thing is we were selling super fire OG Skywalker Kush (Yes we grew it ourselves in a SOG grow and the lineage is from a reputable cloner we have been going to for years) for $50 an 8th...even with the taxes and all we pay on the sacks. Only reason I can see them charging those prices is if the city had some kind of 30% tax on sales....

I can tell you why Earwax and other concentrates are so expensive ....funny thing is Full Melt hash is made the same way as isolator hash etc....even funnier for me is that XTR 1000 hash is far better then most imo. Still nothing beats earwax or amber glass for me. I rather make my own then travel far to purchase something special at those prices. Also it takes us 2 .lbs of popcorn nugs and hand trim to make an ounce of earwax. So dont get in a huff when it costs $60....also there are so few people who can make it properly so..all I know is if your chubbs your happy as fuck that the whole bombarding of internet sites that he has made is paying off. As for a patient and a budtender in the industry I know Chubbs has huge paychecks he probably spends on extracts and concentrates to be the hip kid on the block. Dam I am jealous haha (I aint gonna lie he has a hot asian chick co-worker and lots of cool bongs)

wheezer
01-03-2011, 01:25 PM
Well put Sampson!
I'm soooo glad I don't have to pay these peoples inflated, ridiculous prices in order to smoke as lovely as I do, flowers or concentrates. There is no weed out there worth the prices it's going for, period! But good concentrates are expencive because of what Sam said...it takes alot to make it good.

Grasstronaut
01-03-2011, 02:07 PM
Word man. I can deal with prices on wax n bho and amber glass running for 40-60 cuz a lot of oilheads I know use their top shelf to make their shit, but not for full melt and bubble hash. I grab full melt for cheaper then what people in my area pay for buds. I blame the fact that most smokers just don't know any better and thats why shit is fucked. I mean I understand it costs money to make money but somethings wrong when your netting almost 27 grand off a pound of full melt hash at 60 a g with no breaks because bet all that hash was made from trim and shake and popcorn. Just trash turned into serious cash.

H1JACK3R
01-03-2011, 02:21 PM
What do you think it costs them a P for fullmelt?

Grasstronaut
01-03-2011, 03:14 PM
well how much trim shake and popcorn does it take to make a pound of hash? Its just trash into cash. Even wheezer will tell ya a lot of growers just throw that shit out. Hell if you wanted to you can prob trashpick growers trim n shake during harvest season and get enough to make a few pounds of hash. Bet you can find hash for around 4800 a p or cheaper in humboldt if you looked around. I mean if I wanted a pound I can prob grab one for like 6 grand but thats just cuz I'm not in cali and I dont sell. out east this shit is so rare it goes for 30-50 a g depending on who you go to. some niggas are straight jews and try to fuck ya but some people keep it real and will slide ya grams for 25

wheezer
01-03-2011, 04:23 PM
well how much trim shake and popcorn does it take to make a pound of hash? Its just trash into cash. Even wheezer will tell ya a lot of growers just throw that shit out. Hell if you wanted to you can prob trashpick growers trim n shake during harvest season and get enough to make a few pounds of hash. Bet you can find hash for around 4800 a p or cheaper in humboldt if you looked around. I mean if I wanted a pound I can prob grab one for like 6 grand but thats just cuz I'm not in cali and I dont sell. out east this shit is so rare it goes for 30-50 a g depending on who you go to. some niggas are straight jews and try to fuck ya but some people keep it real and will slide ya grams for 25

true,true,true I could get ya lbs of popcorn and good clean trim for a couple hundos a p all day at harvest time. If you know some peeps you can get all ya want free. I'm trying to get the most out of mine this year, but in the past I sold it cheap or chucked it.
I make my concentrates out of bud, but my dry sift kief (which I like alot) I get from trim.

FuzzyNugget
01-05-2011, 05:21 AM
damn wheez i just need to come live in cali get good buds for regular prices. Id def take some popcorn and trim from a good plant for cheap make some real killer BHO!

Twylights
01-09-2011, 06:20 AM
Actually Wheezer it's down to a hundred a pound for trim.

wheezer
01-09-2011, 06:43 AM
Actually, it depends on who you get it from and how clean it is. Like I said, you can get it free if you know alot of growers.

H1JACK3R
01-11-2011, 05:46 AM
Ooooooh check!

SantaCruzMts
03-26-2011, 02:46 PM
Since the Topic is Overpriced Dispensaries.. I think it should be said that while Dispensaries are in fact expensive. I wouldn't say that they are all over priced.... I don't know how many of you have grown on a scale that would allow you to sell to a Dispensary,, but trust me it is not a cheap operation.. power, nutes, supplies, and the time it takes to do it right add up big time..Trimming my 6 k room is a nightmare. that alone is big time work.. Grow a finicky seventy day strain in a room with a shit ton of lights and then tell me you don't deserve 3 k per pound.. The general public think that people that grow MMJ just put some seeds in the ground add water and sit back and collect the cash..Far from the truth. Now add the price of real estate in California ( Rent ), Now add employees, it's still adding up..Now keep a lawyer on call, and get security for your building. Cameras, Safes, Security Guards..and still adding up.. Now add insurance in case some stoner trips over his own feet in your Dispensary and sues you. It never stops adding up.

So yes dispensaries are expensive to shop at and some are indeed Overpriced, but there is a lot going on there that the Dealer on the streets doesn't have to deal with.

Ripgut
04-03-2011, 04:42 PM
The majority of dispensaries that I've been to weren't expensive at all, IMO. Then again, I usually do my homework to find good deals. I've been going to this place a lot as of late, only 13 miles from my condo, check out their 5 gram deals, I wish other places would start doing this. http://dtc420.com/menu-specials/

SantaCruzMts
04-04-2011, 06:04 AM
I guess it is a matter of perspective as far as price goes. There sure are a lot of strains I have never heard of that end in OG.. I guess there could be a whole bunch of new strains, or more likely people are growing what ever they have and making up names and as long as they put OG at the end people will buy it.. Especially in that market. People gotta have the "Ku" because they heard somebody say it in a rap video... It's actually brilliant marketing.. Whatever works I guess. I just hate that there is a good chance that people are fucking up the ability to keep track of real genetics by making up names for strains that already exist.

Bigsampson
04-13-2011, 02:40 PM
well it is different at every club how good they can talk a salesman down in price. Wax goes for $900 an ounce so it aint cheap. Full melt mid grade hash about 250-300 an ounce and for the good stuff 500. No real price breaks.

heshani1999
06-01-2011, 08:16 AM
This is so wrong other than complaining what can we do ?

MsMJ
06-20-2011, 02:45 PM
There is a dispensary on Venice Beach across from muscle beach that sells grams of hash for $100. I don't see the compassion in that price. They sell hits of hash for $15 plus another $2 for the use of a bong that is kept in the freezer. it's good hash but expensive especially considering the way I smoke hash.
a dispensary on Pico and sawtelle in Los Angeles sells 5 1/8th's of marijuana for $100 each.
a question was asked "other than complain what can we do?"
answer- we can boycott over priced dispensaries or grow our own

TheEmpiricist
12-07-2011, 10:45 AM
I would also like to add over priced dispensaries to our public shit list. Lets boycott every dispensary that sells 1/8th's for over $65 as they are profiting from our medical problems. Dispensaries are supposed to operate as non profit in California but so many dispensary owners are making financial gains. To save money use a delivery service, buy directly from a farmer, or grow your own.
Dispensaries purchase marijuana for about $10 a gram. Dispensaries SELL marijuana to their customers. We do not make "donations." We make a purchase. When the "donation" is set it is called a price. For example an 1/8th of Bubba Kush for $65.

AMEN, SISTER!!!! You speak the truth! :') I'm growing right now. :D Can't wait to finally harvest!

WeaponZero
12-14-2011, 08:35 AM
If i may add my two cents, I dealt with a club in sacramento a while back, and im glad its closed down now. I am a grower, and i try to bring a handful of value to the market when i vend so that customers might be able to get a price break on their meds, so i sold Another Choice Collective, a few elbows of some strawberry cough for 1200$ a lb. so that they could resell at 10$a gram and still make their overhead while i could still afford my overhead. Everything seemed fine until i checked the menu a week later and saw my strain on the top shelf at 25$ a gram, needless to say i was pissed, they arnt the first club to do that and they wont be the last, but any club that does that I NEVER vend to again, Another Choice ended up getting the axe for shaddy business practices. So vendors to have to make a stand against the corruption or prices will never change.

Tebin
03-17-2012, 06:14 PM
Wow that was a fun read. It's 2012 and people are still upset that bud is expensive but at least you can freely walk into a shop and purchase.

shadow1
03-18-2012, 09:28 AM
some dispencs are in it for money and thats why i dont go to them much Id prefer to go to a club.. its better in every way if u ask me. if any of you dont kno a dispenc is ran by a single person and clubs are were people who dont want to throw there stuff down at a dispenc quick and easy for cheap prices and have it resold for top shelf and can go to the club and set up a table and sit there and sell there own for a good standard price. so you talk to the person who either made or grew what u purchase on hand.

Tebin
03-20-2012, 02:05 PM
Yeah that's pretty cool and all but it doesn't help since I live in a non-medical state. Was just making a comment on how lucky you people really are.:cool:

shadow1
03-20-2012, 05:27 PM
yes it really is nice thing and somethin to appreciate but to consistenly have to medicate at dispenc prices its alittle hard to keep up :p payin quite bit extra for quality inless u got the rite med connections or go to a club like i wuld u get alot better deals but yes. its a really a gift to go to a med shop rather then a dealer the choices are way bigger nd the first time i went i was in love with it haha i hate not being able to go to the club and get from somewere else but even that is nice. some people cant even get that :(