quick question

[DonkeyBong64]

hey i was wondering if anyone knows if its safe to try acid and smoke weed?

[tanders]

If you feel it's safe enough to try acid, then how on earth would it not be safe to also smoke weed?

[Calig909]

Write a review about it for me.

[Drums]

If you feel it's safe enough to try acid, then how on earth would it not be safe to also smoke weed?>>>

LOL. Yeah...weed is kinda unnecessary with acid. And, afa "safe"...well, you won't die. But it is *possible* to not ever come back "from the other side". Some people's minds should NEVER get wrapped around that drug. Take the nastiest herb you've ever smoked and multiply it by 10,000.

[tanders]

Write a review about it for me.

I could write a review on taking acid, but I feel as though that isn't something that should be publicly shared, unless I were to do it on a documentary or something

[Calig909]

lol, i meant the kid not you... haha, dude, shoot me a text when you can.

[Drums]

I could write a book on acid. Did way too much back in the day (some would say: "yeah...we figured"). Windopane, blotter, microdots, etc (although, unlike pot, you wouldn't tell a difference. acid is acid). I saw KISS on New Years eve 1975 (in NY, during their heyday) on a hit of 4-way blotter. Definately the *high point* of my life. I've had good trips, and very, very scary ones. My personal theory is that...if you "only use 6% of your brain...", acid opens up a large % of the rest. There is no sativa grown that can compare to the ultra-cerbral mind journey you go on. And the physical seems to be able to do what the mental wants. I was a VERY serious Foosball player back then. Not only couldn't you beat me, but you could not even *score* if I was tripping. People would take their quarters off the table and leave. I know Dock Ellis once threw a no-hitter on acid...so it's not "all in your head." I just saw a thing on US Gvt LSD experiments (possible MK-Ultra). They got something like 25 brainiacs together, who all had been struggling with a specific problem, and told them to all just focus on that for the next....8 hours. I forget if they all solved their problems, but I believe that was the case.

However: lest I sound like I endorse it, it is VERY serious. I tripped with a friend in Mt Snow, VT while in college. He never came back from that night. Dude just went straight crazy. Last I saw of him was when he was arrested after a standoff at his house while threatening to kill his mother. Did acid *cause* that? I don't know. But I'm not big on coincidences. If nothing else it made him confront and embrace his crazy. So, I'll just say what I always say about it: I don't recommend it...but I can't imagine never having done it. If you *must* do it, get somewhere safe. If you ever have any paranoia on pot, you'll be off-the-chart. Make sure a non-tripper knows what you're doing. I always made sure I told someone that if I started wigging out to just keep telling me: "it's only a drug. You WILL be back."

[H1JACK3R]

In my short time on this earth, I've done what some would consider 'alot' of acid. If you are a serious smoker, and plan on tripping, I would suggest having LOTS OF WEED. Not so much because it's going to have that big of an effect on you, but because you will not stop smoking. During bad trips, I find being able to smoke calms me. I've tripped without it and will never do so again.

[Drums]

In my short time on this earth, I've done what some would consider 'alot' of acid. If you are a serious smoker, and plan on tripping, I would suggest having LOTS OF WEED. Not so much because it's going to have that big of an effect on you, but because you will not stop smoking. During bad trips, I find being able to smoke calms me. I've tripped without it and will never do so again.>>>

I'd go with indicas then. Sativas just lit the fuse for me.

[DonkeyBong64]

@tanders: haha good point but im asking cause its gonna be my first time trying it and just wanted to know if it would be a safe and crazy(in a good way) experience.
and to everybody else whos done acid, does it really open your mind like i know weed does but does acid take it to a whole other level? and any suggestions on what to do to it make a better trip?

[DuctTapeTheory]

hey i was wondering if anyone knows if its safe to try acid and smoke weed?

I think the first question is is it safe acid? Do you know anyone whose had some of the same batch? Did they take a full dose?

If you trust the source then go for it. See if you like it before you smoke. It is a very potent chemical: 50-100 micrograms is the common dose! (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml)

If you have a good trip it will be great on its own. Adding anything to it doesn't necessarily change it for the better. Taking more of it doesn't necessarily improve things either.

I think it's a good idea to have a sitter with you, someone you trust who has experience with both the drug and you, and who is not tripping, when you dose.

Ken Kesey said tripping occasionally was good for cleaning up his karma: if you have issues in your life, they will be front and center during your trip (I don't remember where I read this).

Read as much as you can (the Erowid site) before you do it so you know what to expect. It will be similar to what you have read and different too. The cool thing is that you will vividly remember the experience and can learn a lot about yourself as a being in this strange and beautiful world.

[tanders]

@tanders: haha good point but im asking cause its gonna be my first time trying it and just wanted to know if it would be a safe and crazy(in a good way) experience.
and to everybody else whos done acid, does it really open your mind like i know weed does but does acid take it to a whole other level? and any suggestions on what to do to it make a better trip?

just let your trip happen, enjoy yourself and be happy

those are really the only words of advice I can offer you

[Muter]

If youve done mushrooms you should be fine. Ive never done acid, but ive done mushrooms many times. They are so different ant so similar at the same time. One of my friends described it as mushrooms on speed with visuals and without the weirdness that mush gives you. Personally, i wont dabble with acid ever, just heard/seen a few kids get wrecked off of it. My sister used to do acid alot and she had a bad trip and was in the hospitol, almost died (i have reason to believe there wer eother substances involved aswell). Just make sure you trust your source. once you do it there is no going back, so just make sure you have some chill music to relax to if things go the wrong way, and a sober friend. Good luck on your journey

[tanders]

Acid is FANTASTIC if it's really clean, but not everyone makes good crystals or dilute them properly. I've taken way more acid than I care to admit, but what you really have to remember is a little goes a long way

[Drums]

@tanders: haha good point but im asking cause its gonna be my first time trying it and just wanted to know if it would be a safe and crazy(in a good way) experience.
and to everybody else whos done acid, does it really open your mind like i know weed does but does acid take it to a whole other level? and any suggestions on what to do to it make a better trip?>>>

Hmmm...read my previous post?

[DonkeyBong64]

cool well thanks for the advice everybody
and speaking of lsd is the weed strain lsd like it or did someone just give it that name?
and to drums i did read it but for me its a bitch to remember what i read when im high

[wheezer]

Oh my, the memories come flooding back, and just thinking about it puts that tingly taste in my mouth! Mushrooms and acid were part of my balanced diet in my younger days too. I grew up in Florida so shrooms were the first I tried. For me, the shrooms were always much more of a body buzz than acid was.
I would smoke the hell out of cigs and pot, but no effect ever took place. I could suck a half a joint down in one hit. It won't hurt any, that's for sure.
I've personaly seen more people lose it on shrooms than sid. I personally witnessed a guy that was going to a concert with us, and we all drank a baby food jar full of tea we made that so thick it was like syrup. Well, he drank 3 of em'. Half way to the concert, he starts acting wierd, and throws his cigs out the window. Then he pulled out his bag of bud and threw that out. All this time, he wouldn't talk to us at all. He then proceeded to take his clothes off, and threw all his $ out the window. By this time, we were at our exit, so we got off and went a couple blocks down and took a side street and stopped. Turns out, we're in the projects, and the folks didn't like us stopping and getting out in their hood.
This guy proceeds to finish undressing himself till he's completely naked. By this time there's a pretty good crowd gathering, but no one really wanted to mess with him. He then proceeds to squat down and drop stool right there in front of everybody, on the grass of the common grounds of these apartments. One guy finally started to aproach him, and he growled at him and turned around and pulled a mail box with the chunk of concrete out of the ground and started chasing the guy with it.
We decided at that point(we're all tripping balls too) it was time to go, and we hauled ass as the cops were coming. He was in a rubber room for 6 months and hasn't been the same since.

[Muter]

cool well thanks for the advice everybody
and speaking of lsd is the weed strain lsd like it or did someone just give it that name?
and to drums i did read it but for me its a bitch to remember what i read when im high

Just think about that question for a second. Marijuana is not LSD, its just a name.

[tanders]

LSD the strain stands for Lemon Sour Diesel...

[TasK211]

I could write a review on taking acid, but I feel as though that isn't something that should be publicly shared, unless I were to do it on a documentary or something
Except that 1 time right?!!... the COP "run in" u were the only 1 capable of driving.....

[Drums]

Man Wheezer, that is the mother of bad trips!

Muter: it's possible it was PCP. Had that happen *twice* while taking what was supposed to be acid. Once was blotter, once a pill. The first one had me completely lost in a very bad place for about 3 days (and I'm not sure I've ever really come 100% back), the next time I saw Satan. Seriously. Sooo...yeah, you want to be very careful with this stuff.

[tanders]

If you can handle reality, you can handle Acid. Plain and simple. If not, your brain is just gonna wander and do it's own shit for a while and who knows where it's gonna go.

[Kansas]

omg wheezer that was hilarious I think I visualized perfect. Made my wake n bake buddy.

[DuctTapeTheory]

If you can handle reality, you can handle Acid. Plain and simple. If not, your brain is just gonna wander and do it's own shit for a while and who knows where it's gonna go.

I don't agree with the "plain and simple" bit at all. Even "safe" acid can put one in weird place that can "freak out" a seasoned head. It's the "who knows where it's gonna go" that is the trouble.

Has anyone read Shulgin's PiHKAL: A Chemical Love Story? Check that out for a description of his setup for "parties" he hosted to share new psychoactive compounds. A lot of caution and preparation were made in order for his guests to safely explore the inner and outer world. It isn't the same thing in terms of known and unknown but for the fact that an individual who has no experience with a drug should proceed with caution and care.

Here's a description from a review I just found (not as good as the book, by the way):


Apart from providing relatively detailed descriptions of the subjective
effects of a number of drugs whose effects have not previously been
published, Book I provides a very vivid presentation of the methodology
used to explore these materials. We meet the research group that tests
the materials after Sasha has determined the effective dose range. They
gather at the Shulgin's home, in a group of six or eight. Sasha describes
what he knows of the new material and its dose range. Each person chooses
their dose, and the material is dissolved in water or juice and taken in a
toast. After the experience, each member of the group must submit a
written description of the experience.

The selection of examples of drug experiences presented could not easily be
construed to represent an attempt at drug advocacy. The examples include
as many failures and frightening or unpleasant experiences as pleasurable
ones. It is evident that it has taken considerable courage to personally
test so many new and completely unknown compounds. The retrospective of
thirty years of such research evidently indicates that no one in the
research group suffered any harm from the experiments. However that
outcome could not have been known in advance.

Book I describes two experiences in which it was feared that damage
might have been done. Chapter 36 describes a group experiment in which
one member became essentially catatonic for the duration of the effects
of the drug. This caused considerable distress among the other members
of the group who feared that the state may have been caused by neurological
damage from this new and essentially unknown compound. However, as the
effects of the drug wore off, the catatonic individual regained
responsiveness, and reported ``I was in the most amazing place,...
beautiful,... an extraordinary experience,... truly fantastic''.

Chapter 38 describes a ``spiritual crisis'', which began 24 hours after
Ann took an inactive dose of a new compound. This crisis, is described
in Book II as ``a complex and psychologically disruptive syndrome... that
lasted for the better part of a week'' (p. 597). This is perhaps the most
disturbing passage in the book, as it was a highly unusual experience,
very much like being under the influence of a psychedelic drug, but
continuously for a week, and evidently without the direct contribution of
a psychedelic chemical. The implication is that extensive experimentation
with psychedelics could make one susceptible to this kind of evidently
uncontrolled and unwelcome experience. Although the term was not used,
this experience could have been called a ``flash-back''. Not
coincidentally, Chapter 37 discusses the phenomena of flash-backs.

Another interesting aspect of Book I is the elucidation of how Sasha
Shulgin was able to pursue such an unusual career. He began working with
psychedleics while employed as a chemist at ``Dole'' chemical company.
Eventually the company began to frown on the work, and he chose to leave
the company to become a free-lance chemist-consultant. He is an
analytical chemist with a federal license to work with all scheduled
drugs. His consultant work includes serving as a witness in court cases
concering drugs. (http://www.erowid.org/archive/hyperreal/drugs/psychedelics/phenethylamines/pihkal.review)

[bpr288]

if i do ever try cid, itll be when im completely off prescription medications, and when im in a great mood, only with the people i trust the most.

heres a short story for you.. before i knew him, my best friend used to be quite the popular kid in high school...8,000 myspace friends popular. people were making fake myspaces of him actually haha but anyways he would alwaysss go to parties and raves outside phoenix where he would be rolling, tripping, buzzed..anything. he has done everything under the sun, plus many unknown pills and powders. though he never became addicted, he was an idiot and still feels the effects of all those drugs. i sometimes catch him grinding his teeth really hard, which is probably from the ecstasy, and he will look in the mirror and have uncontrollable eye movements. the scarier part is he hasnt popped a tab or anything for a good two or so years now.

and the funny thing is...he says good weed is the best high out of all of them. now that sentence right there will probably cause a stir on here, but from his experiences, he had the most fun and memorable times on good and sticky bud...going out with tons of people, parties, etc.


just to make it clear though, he has no interest or desire to ever go near those hard drugs ever again, and i will never let him. but if i do decide to pay up and grab a tab, or maybe a little acid, it will be with him in the room. i like to think if i know hes there i wont have a bad trip. but i really dont know.

[Drums]

Find a copy of Hunter Thompson's "Songs of the Doomed." He talks about acid (LSD-25 Res Ipsa Loquitor)...that you really can't describe the experience, and Mescaline (First Visit With Mescalito) where he does about as good as anyone could do to try.

[H1JACK3R]

As weird as this is going to sound never found Fear and Loathing that entertaining

[Tebin]

A couple things I've found from my experience:

1.Remember that your mood effects the trip. Stay happy,weed can help calm things down but a nice indica is best.

2.Alcohol kills the trip temporarily so if it gets too intense have a strong drink but don't over do it or you'll black out. Be prepared to trip again when you sober up though.

3. Good acid has no taste whatsoever. If it tastes like anything other than paper(if it's blotter)or has a taste at all spit it out.

4. Take a multivitamin that has at least 100% of you're daily allowance of vitamin C. The more vitamin c it has the better you'll trip and the better you'll feel the next day. LSD take a lot of nutrients out of your body and the next day is no fun if you don't replenish them.

I hope this information is useful and if you have any psychological problems or schizophrenia runs in your family DO NOT TRIP! LSD has been proven to aggravate dormant mental illnesses.

[tanders]

The only problem I have with your list there Tebin is number 3. Good acid most certainly has a taste, you can feel the tingle of the Acid on your tongue on the paper, plus you get that "acid" taste.

I know when acid is fake when it DOESN'T leave behind enough of a taste for me to even know it's there.

[Risks]

Ok so since my parents are getting suspicious of my late night walks or when I take my car during the week and do not know I blaze (They don't know and I get kicked out if they find out, which I can't afford that happening right now) I decided to try to smoke in my room when they sleep at night. It's my last resort.

Since I never tried, I am worrying that the odor will still linger in the morning.

So here's the setup;
I open the window with the fan blowing in it's direction, cover the my door with a towel, sit on the ledge of the window and smoke out of my trusty pipe. Then I will light a matches in my room just to make sure... Then close the window and let my fan air my room.

By the way, I can't use my bathroom and don't have dryer sheets to make a sploof right now. My parents room are down the hall and my sister (she's against it also) is two doors down.

So I ask you fellow toker, will it still smell weed in my room the morning after if a little smoke goes in my room from the burning marijuana aka god's gift

Thank you in advice, as getting caught is not an option for me at the moment..

Happy toking!

[TasK211]

In my opinion, that "should" do the trick, every now n then i too have to keep it unknown, but thats rare.. n when i do decide to smoke in my house, those r the simple steps i take, but do keep in mind the HERB toking is pretty much known to all...

[Tebin]

The only problem I have with your list there Tebin is number 3. Good acid most certainly has a taste, you can feel the tingle of the Acid on your tongue on the paper, plus you get that "acid" taste.
I know when acid is fake when it DOESN'T leave behind enough of a taste for me to even know it's there.

Thats odd I've never been able to taste acid and I've had some face melter,supplier always tells me that if it has a strong taste it isn't going to be good. I do however understand what you're saying about the tingling though. It usually goes down my throat or lingers on the back of my tongue.

[H1JACK3R]

I've had original rec and it didn't have a taste.

[tanders]

I think my favorite Acid I've gotten to date was diluted into breath mint solution so it would taste like mint and not look like a vial of Acid.

Everyone's recipe is different, but there's no way the crystal gives off no taste, water will evaporate off, but if you have "no taste" it's highly diluted, but you really don't need that much to trip, a little goes a looooooooooong way