How do you get different BHO textures?

[Caustik]

I have made BHO twice using a SS turkey baster method. My first batch, i scraped it all up in the middle of the Pyrex, then put it back on the double boiler thing, but on a low heat. then I whipped it until i stopped seeing butane bubbles forming. I whipped it with a dabber for the entire time it cooled. It turned into a wax like texture but it almost shatters.

My second batch I just scraped it then whipped it then put it on the double boiler just enough to melt it to stir to to unify the texture. It came out see trough and amber color. Almost like jelly but stable.

How do you get other textures like the honey comb wax looking stuff or the crumbly yellow Crystaly stuff?

[Aeschrr]

Different textures of BHO are accomplished by a couple medthods, eg. "honey comb" wax is vacuum purged ( the holes are where even more butane has evaporated) or using Co2 as the extraction media. As for being crumbly - it's possible the wax was heated longer than was necessary, as wax wil become a powder if you heat it too long.

[CanadaDank]

I think you should use a different process. :(

Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4rh3TX14AY

Too add to the video... If you want to make small, cheap batches, I would use a Honey Bee Extractor. They cost $20 bucks, don't freeze your hand, and are good for batches of approx 3-20 grams.
As well, if you live in the US, use Vector butane as it is the best. In Canada, we use Colibri as it is the best we have.

Cheers

[weedabiz]

id go for the gooo, but to each is own..lol. Spray/scrape/more boiler or vac the shit outta it. Just don't rape that shit, it's down the drain once its infused with the crap you use to leech the goodies. hope that helps playa

[Caustik]

@CanadaDank (http://forum.nuggetry.com/member.php?u=664)
I use that exact method, but instead of glass i use stainless steel, the next best thing. Although i have used glass more than once for extractions.

From what I have gathered by doing the BHO process a lot, If i add any amount of heat, the oil will budder up and be kind of like ear wax that doesn't stick well to a dabber, but can be touched with your hands. It usually takes about 2-3 days for the oil to cure into earwax/budder.

I always vac mine immediately after scraping until it doesn't puff up much at all, and it tastes like the butane is absent. It usually takes about 4 times in the chamber.


What I am most interested in is the honeycomb wax. My theory is that it is held in the vac long enough for the oil to budder up, so then it doesnt collapse on itself once you let it out of the vac. What do you guys think?

[weedabiz]

"And it tastes like the butane is absent" What's your basis for comparison and your do realize your trying to instill your thoughts into fact..juss sayin ;)

[Caustik]

My basis for comparison is shity butane filled earwax i have had before that sizzles and pops and burns your throat. Mine doesnt, its smooth and clean tasting.

I am asking how to get the honeycomb wax, and it is known that heat makes it budder. So what is your point?

Im trying to figure the honeycomb texture out because no one has a write up on how to do it.

what does your post even mean?

[weedabiz]

I guess I just realized your prioritys lol. IMO nd in past expirience budda or w.e is cause by mixing tane orrr if you tried to get it oily nd sappy but failed itll butter over a course of time. Points of nucleation by the tane are created and cause it to shift texture. if ya want combs I guess whipping would be the solution and then throwin it slightly preheated ina vac system. don't let the way something smokes delude you of it's imperfections. if your addicted to crack your dang sure to say that shit is delicious. pizzout wuz just try to edumacate

[Chef]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUUv-PcYM4XQv69WDGWeFreA&v=haqVnzaS9L4

Not my vid, but he does talk about the honeycomb for a second...

[Caustik]

@Chef
Thanks for finding that video, I think that confirmed my theory of how that honeycomb is made. It budders while under the vac, OR it is left out for a while to purge in air and the butane forms the bubbles while it is buddering. Both work, the vac method obviously better.

I am going to give it a try and see if I cant get the honeycomb texture by leaving it in the vac long enough for it to budder up.

I guess i should probably add that since i made the original post, I have done over 15 runs, as big as 35g down to 7g from flowers to trim. So i know more now than i did.

@weedabiz (http://forum.nuggetry.com/member.php?u=2041)
I am still confused on what your point is: "don't let the way something smokes delude you of it's imperfections"
I can tell the difference between purged, unpurged and half purged. I have tried them all. I think i would know by now what good oil tastes like. However, I am sure it can always get a little better one way or another.

[Chef]

Without watching that vid again I can't remeber if that's the one where he is saying the the oil has to be warm enough for the butane to flow. Like if there were air bubbles in a block of ice, no matter how long you left the ice in a vac chamber the air bubbles wouldn't leave the ice because it is solid. Same deal with the oil, it needs to be somewhat viscous while you have it under a vacuum for the butane to be able to bubble out of the oil. I believe in this one, or another one of the guys other vids he mentions leaving the mason jar that is being vac'd on an electric griddle at 100 F for like three hours while it's being vac purged. Other wise he was saying you could vac purge oil 15 times and it'd still have small amounts of tane left in the budder, even though the budder looks perfect.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUUv-PcYM4XQv69WDGWeFreA&v=zxQjPLLbpAo

[weedabiz]

forsure if you say so. Everyone does haha. Pure oil is just oil. Budder is a mixture of w.e you want to extract from said materials plus the solvent used. Now if your going to tell me that mixing eggs nd flour dosen't make dough then keep entrusting your health to prior experiences. It just astounds me how much solvent logged stuff is being sold to patients that"medicate" Shit I'm justa educated pothead nd all I got is astma but those expansions sure as fuck shouldn't be there. Keep supporting your theories It just seems in order that mixing twoo things makes a third. :) im done trying to change the world

[Chef]

@weedabiz

Dude, learn to spell and use punctuation. I've read all six of your posts and it's still hard as fuck to figure out what you are trying to say. No matter how right you might be people will tend to ignore you if you sound like an idiot. Just food for thought...

[weedabiz]

Ha, I read my post just fine. As long as the points across eh? that is the point of it being written. and lol calling me an idiot because my paragraphs are a bit lopsided nd maybe slangin but what are ya'll clearly denying facts. But in the end smoke whats good in your eye's i'll do the same its just find it crazy that people aren't all to bothered by impuritys in they're "medz" or dabs. but I guess if you repeat something enough it becomes public truth haha.

[Caustik]

@weedabiz

alright bro im tired of talking to your dumb ass.

I think you have some sort of misconception as to what budder is and how you can achieve it. It is achievable after you put it through a vacuum purge a few times. NOT JUST by whipping in the butane. If that is the only honeycomb you have smoked i think you should try smoking oil more.

[weedabiz]

rofl.If you put unpurged oil in vac to purge it, whipping it prior to vacc would only jumble up all the molecules in the solution we're looking to purify..right? and brah anything that dosen't stick to itself is budder but if YOU say so lulz like I said I know wassup I don't gotta ram it down yer throat.

[Caustik]

"If you put unpurged oil in vac to purge it, whipping it prior to vacc would only jumble up all the molecules in the solution we're looking to purify..right?"

Exactly. Which is why you would whip it after you vac it. Unless you like unpurged oil.

Do you even read my posts?

[weedabiz]

I guess I love purged oil to much why I waste my time lol..idk if I mentioned but butane creates points of nucleation in your errlz. which I like to think of as sores that go away unless agitated. now whipping is obviously that. sooo if your getting managing to whip somethin but oil after the vac looks like you didn't do it right. its not that hard double boilin works good too. but either way get yo combs they just defy logic for me lmao

[Caustik]

I guess I love purged oil to much why I waste my time lol..idk if I mentioned but butane creates points of nucleation in your errlz. which I like to think of as sores that go away unless agitated. now whipping is obviously that. sooo if your getting managing to whip somethin but oil after the vac looks like you didn't do it right. its not that hard double boilin works good too. but either way get yo combs they just defy logic for me lmao

Why not say what you want to say in plain english?

I think I know what you are saying, and that is:

Honeycomb is just plain an inferior product because there is no way to get it to be honeycomb and perfectly vacuumed.

Is that what you are saying?

[weedabiz]

Anything but pure clear oil is inferior bho imho..and I do speak in pretty pain english but if ya say so. and just because it was vacuumed won't necessarily make it fully purged . Clear enuff?

[Caustik]

So my oil would not budder if it was completely purged?

[weedabiz]

Yup,why else would it budder

[Caustik]

Yup,why else would it budder
Adding heat and whipping air into it is what Ive read time and time again on different BHO threads.

[weedabiz]

Heres what you should be gettin, no whippin or nuttin. go with your common sense not what some tart wrote because he's high off his cracksickles. tc has alotta good info on getttin your errlz to look their finest. gl dude haha
https://tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=12&page=2535